Absurdity of Corrupt Politicians

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Why do some voters find the behavior of corrupt politicians rather absurd?

ChatGPT said:

Some voters find the behavior of corrupt politicians absurd because their actions often defy the basic principles of rational self-interest, consistency, or even common sense. This perception of absurdity can arise from several factors:

  1. Brazen Hypocrisy – Corrupt politicians often engage in blatant contradictions, such as campaigning against corruption while being deeply corrupt themselves. This dissonance can make their behavior seem ridiculous to those who value consistency.

  2. Over-the-Top Lies – The sheer audacity of their falsehoods, especially when easily disproven, can make their statements appear comical rather than persuasive. When corruption is coupled with obvious deceit, it can feel like a parody of governance.

  3. Cartoonish Greed and Selfishness – Some corrupt politicians behave as though they are caricatures of greed, enriching themselves in ways so excessive and shameless that it resembles satire rather than serious political maneuvering.

  4. Incompetence in Corruption – Some politicians are so blatant or clumsy in their corruption that it seems like they don’t even care about being caught. This can make them appear absurdly reckless or even foolish.

  5. Theater of Power – Corrupt politicians often act with extreme arrogance, as if they are invincible. The absurdity emerges when they fall spectacularly, revealing that their confidence was misplaced all along.

  6. Public's Complicity – When corrupt politicians remain popular despite their misdeeds, it can create an absurd dynamic where people knowingly vote for individuals who openly harm them. This can feel like watching a tragicomedy unfold in real life.

  7. Satirical Reality – In some cases, corrupt politicians behave in ways that seem straight out of a dystopian novel or a political satire, making reality indistinguishable from parody.

The absurdity lies in the contrast between the expectations of a functioning democracy and the surreal, clownish, or even tragic behavior of those entrusted with power. When voters recognize this disconnect, the entire political spectacle can feel like a dark comedy rather than a serious affair.

You said:

Why do ordinary voters have such high but unrealistic expectations for politicians when they are fully aware of what kinds of moral compromises are required to become successful politicians nowadays?

ChatGPT said:

Ordinary voters often hold high but unrealistic expectations for politicians despite knowing the moral compromises required for political success because of a combination of psychological, cultural, and systemic factors:

1. Cognitive Dissonance and Moral Idealism

Voters may experience cognitive dissonance between what they want in a leader (honesty, integrity, competence) and what they know about how politics actually works (corruption, deal-making, manipulation). To resolve this tension, they may cling to an idealized vision of leadership, hoping that this time a politician will rise above the system.

2. Projection of Personal Morality

People tend to assume that others, especially leaders, should adhere to the same moral standards they hold themselves to. Even if they understand political compromises intellectually, on an emotional level, they still expect leaders to act with integrity and fairness.

3. Cultural Narratives of Leadership

Societies often promote myths of the noble leader—figures like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, or other revered figures who are portrayed as selfless, virtuous, and wise. These narratives shape public expectations, even when reality contradicts them.

4. Desire for a Savior Figure

Many voters yearn for a messianic figure who will fix the system without being tainted by it. This expectation is unrealistic but persists because it provides psychological comfort—it is easier to believe in a hero than to accept the complexity and corruption of real-world politics.

5. Media Amplification of Idealized vs. Corrupt Politicians

The media plays a role by sensationalizing both the scandals and the noble aspirations of politicians. This creates a bipolar perception: politicians are either heroic reformers or villainous crooks, leaving little room for the reality of strategic compromise.

6. Short-Term Memory and Political Cycles

Voters forget or forgive past disappointments and repeat the cycle of high expectations. Each election, new candidates promise “real change” and “clean government,” resetting expectations despite historical evidence of systemic dysfunction.

7. Voters Expect Corruption from Others, but Not Their Own Candidate

People often rationalize corruption when it benefits their side but expect moral purity from opponents. This selective expectation creates an illusion that at least one side should be decent, even when both engage in the same compromises.

8. The Fantasy of Democratic Power

Democracy gives voters the feeling that they have a say in governance, leading them to believe that if only they elect the right leader, things will improve. This illusion of control sustains high expectations, even when the system itself remains resistant to reform.

9. Lack of Political Education

Many people don’t fully understand the structural incentives of politics—how lobbying, donor influence, and party machinery force politicians into moral compromises. Without this understanding, they continue to expect principled leadership in an unprincipled system.

10. Emotional Investment in Political Identity

For many, politics is an extension of personal identity, and admitting that their favored politicians are just as flawed as the rest would mean confronting uncomfortable truths about their own beliefs and choices. Maintaining high expectations helps preserve self-image and group loyalty.

Conclusion

Voters are caught in a paradox: they know politics is dirty but still expect clean leaders. This stems from psychological biases, cultural myths, selective memory, and emotional investment in the idea that politics should be better than it actually is. As a result, every election cycle, they hope against experience that this time a leader will defy the system—only to be disappointed again.

You said:

Eventually the situation would deteriorate enough to force the voters to accept all kinds of blatant political corruptions as normal. Then the corrupt politicians get the absurd idea that they can do whatever they want.

ChatGPT said:

Yes, this is the trajectory of political decay—a vicious cycle where corruption normalizes itself, leading to ever more brazen abuses of power. When voters grow desensitized to corruption, it can create an environment where politicians believe they are untouchable. The absurdity of their behavior escalates because the feedback mechanisms that should restrain them—public outrage, legal accountability, and electoral consequences—gradually erode.

Here’s how this cycle unfolds:

1. Initial Corruption: Moral Outrage Still Exists

2. Desensitization: Scandals Become Routine

3. Normalization: Public Cynicism Replaces Moral Standards

4. Absurdity: The Politicians Believe They Can Get Away With Anything

5. Collapse or Revolution: The System Breaks Down

Why Do Corrupt Politicians Get So Absurd?

  1. They Mistake Desensitization for Approval – Instead of seeing voter apathy as a warning sign, they interpret it as a license to escalate their behavior.

  2. They Surround Themselves with Yes-Men – Without meaningful opposition, they exist in an echo chamber where no one dares question their excesses.

  3. They Develop a God Complex – Long-term unchecked power leads to delusions of invincibility.

  4. They Believe They Can Rewrite Reality – When they control the media and law enforcement, they assume they can dictate truth itself.

  5. They Exploit Chaos for More Power – Some actively manufacture crises to justify emergency powers and further entrench themselves.

Is There a Way to Stop This Cycle?

The only way to prevent absurdly corrupt politicians from reaching their peak delusional phase is to interrupt the normalization process early:

Otherwise, the cycle continues until the system collapses under its own weight, often in violent or authoritarian ways. The most dangerous moment is when corrupt politicians fully believe they are immune to consequences—because at that point, reality usually hits back hard.

You said:

The most effective way to keep a society healthy is to kill all sick people immediately. The fastest way to make a society to be prosperous is to "expel" all non-productive members. What's wrong with these absurd policies?

ChatGPT said:

These absurd policies are fundamentally flawed because they misunderstand the nature of both society and prosperity. Their logic assumes that a society's health and wealth depend only on immediate efficiency and elimination of perceived "burdens," but in reality, societies thrive not through ruthless culling but through adaptive, cooperative resilience. Here’s why these policies fail both morally and practically:


1. Fundamental Misunderstanding of Health and Prosperity


2. Self-Defeating Logic

Example: If all the “non-productive” members of society (elderly, children, disabled) are expelled, who will raise future generations? Who will care for injured workers? Who decides who is "productive" enough to stay?


3. The Absurdity of Short-Term Thinking

Historical Example: The Nazi T4 euthanasia program, which killed disabled individuals in pursuit of a “pure” and “efficient” society, ultimately weakened Germany’s moral and intellectual fabric, turning the state into a death machine that eventually consumed itself.


4. Ethical Catastrophe


Conclusion: Strength Comes from Inclusion, Not Exclusion

The most stable, healthy, and prosperous societies are not those that purge the weak but those that integrate, support, and adapt. A society that discards people the moment they become a burden teaches every citizen that they, too, will be discarded eventually—leading to a culture of fear, paranoia, and inevitable collapse.

A truly strong society does not eliminate its weakest members—it lifts them up, ensuring long-term resilience rather than short-term cruelty.

You said:

Why the presumably decent voters in a democracy vote for politicians who probably never said or believed in their life that all human beings are created equal?

ChatGPT said:

Presumably decent voters in a democracy often end up voting for politicians who do not genuinely believe in equality for several reasons. These reasons are deeply psychological, systemic, and historical, making the contradiction not just a failure of moral judgment, but a reflection of larger societal forces.


1. The Illusion of Lesser Evils


2. Moral Compartmentalization


3. Tribalism Over Principles


4. The Comfort of Hierarchy


5. Manipulation and Mass Media


6. The Myth of Meritocracy


7. Fear of Change


8. The Slow Erosion of Democratic Values


Conclusion: People Vote for a Reflection of Their Fears and Interests

Even presumably decent voters are not just voting on morality—they are voting based on group identity, self-interest, fear, media influence, and social conditioning. When a politician rejects the principle that all people are equal, but voters still support them, it is usually because those voters have been persuaded—consciously or unconsciously—that some people deserve more rights than others.

If democracy is to be strengthened, voters must be challenged to recognize how their own fears and biases are being used to manipulate them into accepting leaders who do not actually believe in equality.

You said:

Do ordinary voters even actually want universal democracy?

ChatGPT said:

The uncomfortable reality is that many ordinary voters do not truly want universal democracy—at least, not in its fullest sense. While they may say they believe in democracy, their actual political behavior often reflects conditional democracy, where they support democratic rights only when it benefits their own group or aligns with their worldview. This contradiction arises from deep-seated psychological, historical, and structural factors.


1. Democracy as a Means, Not an End


2. Tribalism Over Principles


3. Fear of the “Wrong People” Voting


4. Preference for Strong Leaders Over Democratic Processes


5. The Comfort of Hierarchy


6. Short-Term Self-Interest vs. Long-Term Democratic Health


7. Psychological Exhaustion: Democracy Is Too Much Work


Conclusion: Most People Want Democracy—But Only When It Serves Them

Most ordinary voters believe in democracy as a concept but frequently undermine it in practice by:

Universal democracy requires universal commitment to democratic values—but history shows that many voters only support it conditionally. This is why democracies are always at risk of slowly sliding into authoritarianism unless people actively defend democratic norms even when it’s inconvenient.

You said:

Are there any segment of voters who actually want universal democracy?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, but they are a minority in most societies. True believers in universal democracy—meaning democracy that applies to everyone equally, regardless of race, class, nationality, or ideology—tend to come from specific groups with strong philosophical, ethical, or historical commitments to democracy as a moral principle rather than just a tool for power. These include:


1. Philosophical and Ethical Democrats


2. Historically Oppressed and Marginalized Groups


3. Grassroots Community Organizers


4. Pro-Democracy Intellectuals and Journalists


5. Certain Religious and Ethical Traditions


6. Youth and Student Movements


7. Some Progressive Political Movements


Conclusion: Universal Democrats Exist, But They Are a Minority

The challenge is that universal democracy requires constant defense, because those who seek to limit it are often more powerful and organized than those who seek to expand it.

You said:

What can such idealists do to achieve their dreams?

ChatGPT said:

What Can Idealists Do to Achieve Universal Democracy?

Idealists who genuinely believe in universal democracy face an uphill battle, but history shows that organized, strategic action can shift societies toward more inclusive and participatory systems. Here’s what they can do to achieve their dreams:


1. Build Strong Networks and Alliances

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2. Reframe the Narrative to Make Universal Democracy Popular

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3. Use Strategic, Nonviolent Disruption

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4. Counter Disinformation and Manipulation

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5. Make Democracy a Cultural and Emotional Movement

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6. Focus on Local Power First

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7. Prepare for Long-Term Struggles

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8. Make It Costly for Elites to Oppose Democracy

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9. Use AI and Technology to Expand Democratic Participation

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10. Inspire Future Generations

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Final Thought: The Idealists Must Become Strategists

Achieving universal democracy is not about simply believing in it—it’s about strategically making it a reality. Idealists must build coalitions, disrupt oppressive systems, reframe narratives, and make democracy emotionally and culturally compelling.

If they do this well, history shows that even the most entrenched anti-democratic forces can be overthrown.

You said:

Do they have any notable leaders?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, throughout history and in the present, there have been notable leaders who fought for universal democracy, even when it was unpopular or dangerous. These individuals come from different backgrounds—political, intellectual, activist, and spiritual—but they all shared a deep commitment to democracy as a universal right, not just a privilege for a few.

Here are some of the most notable leaders of universal democracy:


Historical Leaders

1. Thomas Paine (1737–1809)


2. Frederick Douglass (1818–1895)


3. John Stuart Mill (1806–1873)


4. Mahatma Gandhi (1869–1948)


5. Nelson Mandela (1918–2013)


Modern Leaders

6. Václav Havel (1936–2011)


7. Noam Chomsky (1928–)


8. Angela Davis (1944–)


9. Amartya Sen (1933–)


10. Maria Ressa (1963–)


Conclusion: The Fight for Universal Democracy is Multi-Generational

The question is not whether leaders exist, but who will step up next.

You said:

Thanks.

ChatGPT said:

You're very welcome! I appreciate these thought-provoking discussions. Let me know anytime if you want to explore more ideas or dive deeper into a specific topic. Keep up the great work in questioning, analyzing, and strategizing for a better world! 🌍✊

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